#CNBCGOPDebate jots…

I am in agreement with the broader mindset, shared apparently by clear seeing Democrats, that the moderators were awful.   That Harwood…  Guy is a dick.  But the big thing is the demonstration of media bias.

Cruz and Rubio, maybe Fiorina, they have quick, big league minds.

This was new to me.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks  Loved it.

Jeb is a guy with a pedestrian 120 IQ, ie, normal smart.  Get off the stage Jeb, withdraw.

If we got down to the people who have some relevancy for the Republican nomination, I guess that would be Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Fiorina.  Everyone else could bow out.

The moderators were saying ‘Mrs. Fiorina’.  I know that’s her title but I had some sense they were saying it with some douche obnoxious affectation.

Trump… ya know I don’t like him but he’s established some sense of ‘belonging in the conversation’ by now.  I thought he destroyed Kasich at one point.  He has to defend his use of corporate bankruptcy regularly, and he says “I used the chapter laws to my advantage.”  That’s not what you say.  Say “I used the chapter laws to protect the company and its employees, because we thought it was a viable business worth saving…” yada yada.


5 thoughts on “#CNBCGOPDebate jots…

  1. pm1956

    yeah, right. This “liberal media” stuff is simply an excuse that the candidates use to get out of giving truthful answers to hard questions. Avoid the question by slamming the person who asked it–this is what Trump did to Megyn Kelly, and Rubio, Trump and Carson (among others) all used the same technique last night. Rubio tried to duck and lie about his tax policy and how much it is skewed to the wealthy( see chait’s explanation of how Rubio lied: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/peace-breaks-out-among-the-republican-candidates.html), Trump denied calling Rubio Zuckerberg’s personal senator (when it is onTrump’s website), and Carson denied having connections to Mannatech (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/ben-carsons-total-propaganda.html).

    seriously, there is nothing wrong with asking these questions. They are perfectly legitimate, and will be asked by lots of people during the campaign. Just because you don’t like the people who are asking the question does not mean that the question is illegitimate, and all of these questions certainly were legitimate, as well as being pertinent. That is called an ad hominem attack, when you attack the person and not the question, and it is completely illegitimate. And, of course, the person who knows that this is a BS tactic, yet uses it more than anyone else, is Ted Cruz, who is a champion debater.

    What amazes me is that people like you don’t see thru this crap. I mean, there are good, smart conservatives out there, and there are good, smart conservative arguments to be made, but BS drives out the good ones, and you are left with nothing but BS candidates making BS arguments. And then you (conservatives) blame the media when they fail at the ballot box.

    You guys (conservatives) get what you pay for, and you are paying too much attention and giving too much credibility to idiot conservatives. Most of these guys (Trump and Carson in particular) are just out to make a buck off of selling their books and hats and their brands, and most conservatives in this country are too dumb to see that they are voting for hucksters who are fleecing them. seriously, the problem isn’t that I have contempt for conservatives, it is that the conservative leadership has contempt for the conservative sheeple (who they exploit shamelessly).

    1. W.E. Peterson Post author

      Moi? I think both can be true, I have delved to acknowledge the huckster phenomena, and I am not a Trump or Carson guy. I thinks its true the moderator questioning was consistently vituperative however relevant the topics explored.

      I read this morning, Josh Marshall, Kevin Drum, a few others thought at least that the quality of the moderation was deficient if not ‘biased’. I think the proper explanation is the deficiency stems in part from bias.


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